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SMOKING KILLS! (Literally) College Student dead after falling off ledge while smoking.
University of Arkansas-Fayetteville (Arkansas Traveler) ^ | 23 OCT 01 | DCBryan1

Posted on 10/23/2001 1:21:39 PM PDT by DCBryan1

An eerie mood lingered around Pomfret Hall early Tuesday morning as people learned of a fellow student's death. Stunned friends embraced each other as tears streamed down their faces.

UA freshman Alexander W. Gilbert, 18, of Little Rock, accidentally fell from a ledge on the fifth floor of the B-Wing of Pomfret Hall late Monday night after he went outside to smoke with friends, police said early Tuesday morning. He was pronounced dead on the scene at 12:20 a.m. Tuesday by the Washington County assistant coroner.

The scene Tuesday morning was almost identical to the reactions students had in the Arkansas Union just about a month ago when they heard about the World Trade Center. The difference this time is the tragedy is more personal, closer to home. For some students, the tragedy happened at what they call their home.

Police are still investigating all aspects of Gilbert's fall, UAPD Lt. Gary Crain said. There are no indications that alcohol, drugs or foul play were involved, he said. Brian O. Hemphill, associate vice chancellor and dean of students, received a call from UA officials and arrived on the scene at about 12:30 a.m. Hemphill notified Gilbert's parents of their son's death, he said.

"It's a very sad day for us; we've lost a very special person in our community," Hemphill said.

As the impact of the accident became realized Tuesday morning, University Housing staff ushered stunned students into the Pomfret Great Room where they were told the counselors in residence and Counseling and Psychological Services were and would be available for the rest of the week.

"We are encouraging anyone who is feeling some connection to this to reach out and talk to the counselors in residence or CAPS," Hemphill said.

Most of the students went back into the residence hall at the request of University Housing staff, but a few remained on the lawn waiting for the latest information.

Rumors circulated among students in and out of the building as they tried to piece together the information they had heard.

Students said standing outside the building said smoking on the ledge was a tradition on the fifth floor. University officials did not officially comment on the tragedy until 3 a.m.

"There is obviously a policy against students being on ledges and removing screens," said Jim Conneely, assistant vice chancellor for Student Affairs. [there is also a ban on smoking in dorms]

Police received a 911 emergency call at 11:38 p.m., according to a UA news release. Emergency medical personnel, police and university officials somberly gathered throughout the early hours around the concrete patio where Gilbert fell to his death.

A few hours later a small number of students solemnly remained on the sidewalk a short distance from the patio where Gilbert died.

The body was taken to the state crime lab in Little Rock for an autopsy, Crain said.

Gilbert was the son of Lugene and Steven Woods of Little Rock. He had attended Robinson High School in Little Rock and was a student in the Sam M. Walton College of Business. Hemphill said he would have another conversation with family Tuesday afternoon and would release memorial service details later.

"What we are trying to do is be very responsive to the community's needs," Hemphill said. "There are several students who will be impacted and we want to be there for them."


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Im not saying a word! I'll let you guys get this thread pulled. RIP desparate smokers.
1 posted on 10/23/2001 1:21:40 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (DCBRYAN1)
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I wonder how wide the ledge was? If we're talking three or four feet I can understand. If these students teeter on a foot-wide ledge, this guy's a Darwin finalist.
2 posted on 10/23/2001 1:24:44 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: *puff_list; Gabz; Just another Joe; maxwell; dubyaismypresident; SeaDragon; Argh; Slip18; camle...
Give me a minute, I'm still formulating a response.
3 posted on 10/23/2001 1:25:43 PM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: NittanyLion
I went to school there for one year, or as we say, "I did one tour of duty at "Fayette'NAM". The ledges are between 24" and 36" wide....thats it! They are about 4-6" thick.
4 posted on 10/23/2001 1:27:44 PM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: sirgawain
Here is a, "puff" bang, ping! for you.
5 posted on 10/23/2001 1:28:30 PM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: NittanyLion
If we're talking three or four feet I can understand.

I used to have a three foot wide ledge outside my 38th floor window in lower Manhatan for a summer smoking/lunch lounge. Hey, that was wider than my chair, and I never fell off my chair!

6 posted on 10/23/2001 1:29:20 PM PDT by StriperSniper
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To: DCBryan1
If you were going to change the title, you should have done it properly:

ANTI-SMOKERS, NON-SMOKING CRUSADE KILLS!

7 posted on 10/23/2001 1:30:41 PM PDT by World'sGoneInsane
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To: World'sGoneInsane
LOL...I thought about...

"Puff, puff, AIIRRRGHHH!!!" Student dies by falling off building while smoking in a no-smoking, 5th story building ledge".

8 posted on 10/23/2001 1:32:39 PM PDT by DCBryan1
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Perhaps they were being patriotic. Seeing as how a college student can only bee patriotic by hanging outside a upper level dorm window. (inside joke)
9 posted on 10/23/2001 1:32:43 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: rec
D'oh!
10 posted on 10/23/2001 1:33:07 PM PDT by MadameAxe
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To: DCBryan1
I hate when that happens!
11 posted on 10/23/2001 1:36:31 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: Texaggie79
I'm a little confused--was he out on the ledge because they are not allowed to smoke in their rooms? Or, was he out on the ledge just being young and stupid? Either way, I feel terrible for this young mans family.
12 posted on 10/23/2001 1:36:55 PM PDT by Azrael
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To: Texaggie79
Perhaps they were being patriotic. Seeing as how a college student can only bee patriotic by hanging outside a upper level dorm window. (inside joke)

Get with the program -- A&M rescinded their flag ban, and you're still defending their original stupid decision.

13 posted on 10/23/2001 1:37:40 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: DCBryan1
Hemphill said. "There are several students who will be impacted and we want to be there for them."

An incredibly poor choice of words...

14 posted on 10/23/2001 1:38:59 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: DCBryan1
The scene Tuesday morning was almost identical to the reactions students had in the Arkansas Union just about a month ago when they heard about the World Trade Center.

I'm sorry the guy is dead and I feel sorry for his family. But this is a stupid statement.

15 posted on 10/23/2001 1:40:01 PM PDT by Ward Smythe
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To: DCBryan1
Excuse me, but do IQ's drop when you get to college now a days? I mean really, get a grip. You are 5 stories up and you go out on the ledge.....

It doesn't matter whether he wanted to smoke or look at the moon, his actions were stupid.

Good start to cleaning the gene pool if you ask me.

17 posted on 10/23/2001 1:42:50 PM PDT by SeaDragon
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SMOKING KILLS! (Literally) College Student dead after falling off ledge while smoking.

Are they sure it wasn't the fall that killed the student? Im not convinced yet....

18 posted on 10/23/2001 1:43:40 PM PDT by FreeTally
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To: DCBryan1
"There is obviously a policy against students being on ledges and removing screens," said Jim Conneely, assistant vice chancellor for Student Affairs. [there is also a ban on smoking in dorms]

Smoking bans kill, as do nanny-states, and busybody do-gooders.
FMCDH

20 posted on 10/23/2001 1:45:18 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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